Battle of the Clans

 _IYIastA_


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Posted 21 February 2012 - 6:23 pm
I saw this suggested a bit back by somebody and I thought it was a good idea.


I miss the days when clans actually had wars and didn't just talk **** back and forth. I know they did that anyway and most wars ended 1-0 or with both clans claiming someone hacked and that they won.

Nevertheless. I'd love to host a clan based tournament which would obviously be at least a month long for a realistic chance of getting matches completed. The simple rules would be that you can only use members that have been on your roster for at least a week prior to whenever we announce the event.

We present a list of acceptable maps for 4v4 clan battles which will be picked from all of the ladders. So no Dome for example. Any Castle Blood map would be same civs. We'd need to avoid picking maps with obvious advantages to certain colours.

Then, each clan picks two maps from the list with the decider being randomized each round from a separate list of suitable deciders.


Alright. Thats the bones of the idea. Do you think this is feasible? Do you think for example, that members of Vicious would come back and play?
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 UserID123477053


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Edited 21 February 2012 - 11:31 pm by UserID123477053
yawn

does no one remember this was attempted before and was a total failure?

I do. Maybe cause I wasted a lot of time trying to host it?

No one showed up. Even clans like eot, ViCiouS, and LC only had like 3 players show up at the time of the matches.

This kind of stuff only works in RM where they actually have some real prizes and where they aren't afraid to play each other.
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 Gary____


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Posted 22 February 2012 - 1:00 am
agreed entirely, i had my clan there and it was just pathetic

we couldn't get any games and furthermore clans like gx..... ruin it
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 Gary____


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Posted 22 February 2012 - 1:02 am
i think realistically, it could be an idea to do this, but like maybe elect 2~3 ppl from each clan or even 4 to play a series of bo5 maps or something like that in a tournament style.. it cannot be a league thing........ and not too many ppl can be on, a few select ppl need to be choosen from each clan and that cannot change, they must play in all maps and represent their clans, it's a good idea if it was done like that
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 [NSA]ForgiveMe_USA


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Posted 22 February 2012 - 1:16 am
Can't really think of a good way to do this.
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 _IYIastA_


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Posted 22 February 2012 - 1:17 am
Well to be fair I wasn't here. I'm willing to give it a crack. No smurfs allowed obviously... ZANCHY...

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 UserID123476158


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Posted 22 February 2012 - 6:16 pm
I have a few ideas on how this could work.
But I would say for the near future let's concentrate all our efforts in getting the rest of the tournaments running and bringing in more and more attention from Voobly players, and incative players coming back.

I believe that the more active our tournaments become the more active the players will be.

Then I think something like this will be more worthwhile.
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 _IYIastA_


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Posted 22 February 2012 - 7:48 pm
Yea I intended maybe to just lay a groundwork, compile fair maps for 4v4 and such in the background. I'd suggest a period of a month of notice before we even announced a start date. That would let us see if the will among clans to practise was there.
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 UserID123477053


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Edited 22 February 2012 - 8:03 pm by UserID123477053
This was my template for the previous one....

The tournament will be played in a round robin first stage followed by a semi final and final single elimation rounds.
Teams have been divided randomly into two sepparate groups.

Each clan will have 5 matches in the first round. A win will be 2 points each.
The top 2 clans of each group will advance to the semi finals in which the first placed clan in group A will face the second placed clan in group B and vice versa.

A clan must play with the players given on their roster, THOSE EXACT ACCOUNTS.

The use of any other players will mean forfeit of the match.

Each clan picks 2 maps which they will play for that match, each map pick must be from a different group then the last

Groups:

Group 1:
Cba,RCB,Mini CB

Group 2:
smosh, herofest, graves

Group 3:
km, spider, vet

Group 4:
khans, gwarz, Germs

miscellaneous:
TTD II
AoW
Dodgeball
Linewars

Clans cannot pick the same map twice during the first round, once the round robin is done picking will be reset.

Deciders for each map will be chosen randomly from our group of miscellaneous maps

All games Must be Recorded. Lagging or attempting to sync/drop the other team will NOT be tolerated.

Dropping will be evaluated case by case.


RCB:

=V= Rambit CB Gold 2010.scx
Blue + Red + Green vs Yellow + Teal + Purple
Civilizations: Maya + Mong + Jap

CBA:

=V= CBAv6.scx

blue + green + teal vs red + yellow + purple
No deleting
Stay in the same position for more than 10 minutes: forfeit
Civilizations: Byz, Mongs, Sars

Mini:

=V= Mini CB Classic v4.scx
Odds vs evens
Stay in base for more than 10 minutes: forfeit
Civs to be decided

Smosh:

=V= Smosh PA v2.scx
Blue + Yellow + Teal vs Red + Green + Purple

No deleting

Vets:

=V= Veteran Blood v3.scx
Blue + Green + Purple vs Red + Yellow + Teal

No blocking kings, no deleting

KM:

=V= King Moves.scx

Blue + Yellow + Purple vs Red + Green + Teal

No blocking kings

Graves:

=V= Grave Blood.scx
Blue + Red + Green vs Yellow + Teal + Purple

No shooting over water, no deleting
Civiliaztion: Teutons

Spider:

=V= Spider Blood FiX v2.scx
Blue + Teal + Red vs Green + Yellow + Purple

No deleting unless its blacksmith or market, no shooting pyramid over water

Herofest:

=V= Herofest.scx
Blue + Red + Green vs Yellow + Teal + Purple
Civilization: Turks

Germs:

=V= Germs Blood.scx
Blue + Red + Green vs Yellow + Teal + Purple

Khans:

=V= Khans Blood v2.scx
Blue + Red + Green vs Yellow + Teal + Purple

Gwarz:

=V= Gwarz.scx
Blue + Green + Teal vs Red + Yellow + Purple
Civilization: Teutons


Deciders:

TTD II:

=V= Teams TD IIatkimpfix.scx --- [You must login to view link]
Teams Auto


Line Wars:

=V= Line Wars V4.scx
Computers as p3/p4
Teams Automatic

Art of War:

Blue + Yellow + Purple vs Red + Green + Teal
Civs can be chosen by clans with the exception of Persians/Koreans/Turks/Celts

Dodgeball:

=V= Dodgeball (Teams).scx
Blue + Green + Teal vs Red + Yellow + Purple
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 Gary____


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Posted 22 February 2012 - 8:34 pm
such a good idea
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 [NSA]ForgiveMe_USA


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Posted 22 February 2012 - 10:02 pm
I Agree with Taff about this.
Let VCOM work for awhile and see how it goes.
I think summer time may show an increase in player activity.
Probably should wait until June or something.
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 _IYIastA_


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Posted 22 February 2012 - 11:52 pm
I Agree with Taff about this.
Let VCOM work for awhile and see how it goes.
I think summer time may show an increase in player activity.
Probably should wait until June or something.

Maybe I didn't make it clear but that's what I was trying to say.

This is something I'd like to do in a few months time but I wanted to gather ideas and get people thinking.
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 Zaotjl


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Posted 23 February 2012 - 5:30 am
marauder great work
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 _IYIastA_


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Edited 23 February 2012 - 10:19 am by _IYIastA_
Zaotjl wrote:
marauder great work


I think you missed the part where he said it failed.

It is needlessly complicated. Of course if everyone thinks that it should be tried in that specific format again then go for it! My own thoughts follow below.

IDEA 1:

However I think that a stripped down and simplified version of the above format would have a higher chance of going down without a hitch.

Forget groups, forget restricting map types. Let a clan pick one map that they want on the list of approved fair maps. That is two games. The next three maps will be the most commonly played maps from CB, Bloods and Alternative.

CBA, Smosh and Dodgeball.

I know CBA hero is popular now but that is way too much like a blood to be fair to a CBA based clan.

So we have a blood clan allowed to pick for example Vets. A CB clan might pick RCB or CBX or whatever.
Some might pick europe or lustful or art of war.

This should minimize the complaints about map choices as it is limited to a pool of verified maps and each clan is going to have to play outside their comfort zone.


IDEA 2:

We specialise. Make it Masters of Clan Bloods etc... Then host one for CBA and CB ladder. I don't think one for alternative makes any sense though.
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 Efkanius


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Posted 23 February 2012 - 2:06 pm
This will never work, because people are scared ****less to play each other in CS.


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