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So you have advantage in early feudal... Small early tower rush on resources and ready up long swordman fight in castle. Just collect 50-60 stone and put two well placed tower with map luck. Probably you gonna need his wood. Focus on his eco.... Not focus on killing. Focus eco. No stone, very less wood give him. Hard but not impossible. If you wait and you say i can win with crossbowmen against huskars... GG man. GG. Monks and knights... You end up the game after 15-20 minutes if he play well under your TC and you do not farming he is scamming two handed sword man and you are calculating champion time with diminishing +1 armored knights. Watch some folks tasted this strategy and see... No way. do not sit your ass and wait. Attack and attack. Begin in dark age. focus. scouting is curical. If you cannot scout well, if you lose your scout, generally it is gg against goth. Goth scouting generally will be short handded because of his walling act. Carlos shows one of the best if not Goth play style. Watch his games... and learn what you need not to do. Do not give them break. Do not hurry up to castle... Meaningless if you do not have big advantage. I rather choose stoping his collecting stone and some wood and castle same time. With persian you may have good castle on him in early very early castle and wall him in. Wall him in. Do not let him out. You cannot play in plain all ground. Major arror against goths is wall yourself... no man, no... You must wall in the Goth. If he is walling Help him. Wall in him. Without resources... Do not hurry to be castle... You gonna be castle nearly same time or maybe late if he cannot collect any stone.
Carlos probably lose many games on stone and wood focusers but i guess he publish some of them... Goths losing attidued always same. They lose because of wood and stone. Cut stone. Crossbowmen and knights kills like butter
Game with end, you imperial he gonna never be imperial or just he imperial and gg. You understand? he need spend everything and all game you must attack. NO Wall yourself... WALL him in his base.
My noob ideas.
Paladins shield cannoners vs huskarls, and hand cannoners are pretty good vs pikes and not bad vs huskarls
In castle age it can get kinda tricky. If he plays huskarls, you will need to do kts. If he mixes pikes, you also need to do xbow/skirm. At least try to get it to imperial, as weird as this may sound.
In imperial goths mostly only play infantry. You can do HC (hand cannonneer), which are extremely good Vs. infantry (attack bonus). He will need to add skirms or onagers (he can't do arbalest). In that case you can add hussar or onagers yourself.
He might produce his army faster, but you will have a better army composition and a better economy (because of the faster tc production).
Also, in imperial, if you have time, you can try elite war elephant. He needs at least twice the amount of halbs, maybe even 3, to counter you. Beware of monks though.