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First of all i think hero fest should be added to random tg pack, its one of the oldest and best aoe maps and with some changes adapted to random tg it should be pretty fun again. i see people complaining about the map because the gamestyle in early 2000 developed to be turkwar and its not practicable to nowadays random civ tg games.

After seeing alot of unfair/long/boring/bbt camping games i think rams can avoid these points.

-people will tend to full rush and while that process both players gain faster kills or even die instead of both camping and using runners for hours.

-non-bbt civ will be able to win vs a bbt civ

theres alot more aspects

not sure about all techs, might be interesting tho



before u start spam with bullsh1t:
-if there were many pro games like turk or hunwars i would never want to change the game and add something new, but thats not the case in 2016

so we might adapt the map to random tg

please some active random players give your criticism or ideas here. i dont wana see forum warrior ****s with 0 ladder games and 5k+ posts rejecting this idea

I been saying this for years.

A version with Rams has been tested and has been approved by all best HF who played it,
but some 'old schoolers' on forums who didn't try the version pulled the plug on it.

Rams will make the camping less. Even with rams camping will exist in this map. Add some rams to make it atleast less.

rams = cba zzzz

This. The map exists on my HDD.


However with rams it could be extremely easy to kill players in bad spots.

full tech ON - no need rams else will be stubid game

It could be added to 1v1. I'd be vehemently opposed to it being in TG as I believe its a map where one player can win alone.

Tested the hf with rams, but isnt enough to beat full bbt defense, because of the early heroes. Imo need a máx of 15-20 bbts

i liked it just HF + rams (no bbt limit)

Anyone thought of just banning bbts?

The main problem is the camp because u cant push without siege. Without bbts is even harder to push.

The maps irredeemable then. Burn it.

Just banned BBT or add rams .

honestly this map with full tech and rams was one of the most fun maps i've played.

I never got to try the ram map but ive been saying about adding rams for quite some time